The thorough research in the report link above: “This is The Way God Made Me” should be more than enough! However it is delightful to see gay activists themselves being honest enough to tell the truth, “No one is born gay, the idea is ridiculous!” – Camille Paglia.
One gay activist recently said: “We don’t care that we are not born gay! We love our gayness! Get over it Christian homophobes, deal with it and tolerate it already!”
I think it is time to tell the truth loudly! You have been lied to America!
Not only does Camille Paglia, speak the truth, but there is the recent work done by Dr. Lisa Diamond, another lesbian leader. My friend Karen Booth wrote an excellent article and posted on her blog, and I share it below the two excellent videos:
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Are People Born Gay? Genetic and Epigenetic Determinism in Homosexuality
Born Gay? Is Homosexuality Genetic/Biological? – Science Is In: The Short Answer is: NO! – No one is born gay!
Is homosexuality unchangeable? Are gays and lesbians exclusively attracted to their own genders? Does a person who experiences same-sex attraction always proceed developmentally to the acceptance of a homosexual orientation or the adoption of an LGB or “queer” identity?
Dr. Lisa Diamond
These are the kinds of questions that have intrigued sex researcherDr. Lisa Diamond, who teaches psychology and gender studies at the University of Utah. A self-identified lesbian and vocal supporter of same-sex marriage, she is considered by many in her field to be one of the nation’s foremost experts on female homosexuality. Her research since the mid-90s has primarily focused on the “fluidity” of women’s sexual behavior, attractions (orientation) and identity labeling; and when she published her findings in 2009 the shock waves were felt almost immediately throughout the LGBT community.
For example, the online introduction to one of her interviews on a local radio station put it this way: “The queer community has been obsessed with cultivating the idea that we all have fixed sexual identities. We’ve crafted terrific narratives and political platforms based on the notions that all gays are ‘born that way’. But what if sexuality is more complex? What if biology actually intersects with environment, time, culture and context? Could we possibly be more fluid than we’ve supposed?”
Now, her more recent discoveries about male and adolescent sexuality ― described in detail in this 45 minutevideo of a lecture she presented at Cornell University ― are poised to make a similar impact. Diamond is a very engaging speaker, and I encourage readers to watch the complete video. Otherwise, here are some of the highlights along with my commentary in italics. I also noted some of the minute markers in case anyone wants to fact check.
Those uninterested in the data are welcome to skip that section to get right to my conclusions and application to our current denominational situation.
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In an overview of her previous research, Diamond acknowledges that early studies of homosexuality focused mainly on the “coming out” models of young men, with the developmental sequence moving from an awareness of same-sex attraction at 9 or 10 years old, to a gradual sexual experimentation with other males, to a recognition and acknowledgement of a homosexual orientation, to an ultimate adoption and announcement of gay self-identity. This stereotypical model, with its subsequent conflation of attraction, orientation and identity, has become the accepted “conventional wisdom” of much of the culture and Church. Christian psychologist Dr. Mark Yarhouse dubs it “the gay script.”
Though her findings on women contradicted these patterns in many respects, Diamond still believed they were common for men. But she also acknowledged that it’s been almost impossible to accurately access male homosexuality because the samples have been small, non-random and self-selected, and the right kinds of questions haven’t been asked. (6:10)The same problem has plagued almost all sex researchers ever since the hopelessly flawed Kinsey studies in the late 40s and early 50s. And all of the studies are based on memory and self-report that may not be entirely accurate. (For more information on the Kinsey reports, see Chapter One of my bookForgetting How to Blush: United Methodism’s Compromise with the Sexual Revolution.)
So in her most recent research, Diamond has shifted her focus from women to men and adolescents in an attempt to confirm or disprove what she calls the three pillars of sexual fluidity ― non-exclusivity; inconsistency between identity, attraction and behavior; and, variability over time. (8:35) In doing so, she rigorously examined and plotted the findings of a dozen of the more recent large population studies from 1992-2010, including one in New Zealand that followed a group of young people from their late teens to early thirties.
Regarding the first “pillar” ― non-exclusivity ― she discovered that the majority of men who had experienced same-sex attraction (SSA) of any kind were PRIMARILY attracted to the opposite sex; those who were exclusively attracted to other men accounted for approximately 2.5 percent of the general population sample. Less than 1 percent of the women were exclusively SSA, and both of these results were consistent across all the studies. (14:36)
These statistics are far more accurate than the commonly heard claim that 10 percent of men and women are gay, usually thought of as exclusively so. That figure is based on a faulty interpretation of the Kinsey research, which actually reported that approximately 10 percent of the male population had engaged in homosexual behavior at some time during their life. Even this outcome was inflated well beyond Diamond’s findings (5-7 percent) because Kinsey used a disproportionate number of incarcerated “sex offenders” and urban-dwelling homosexuals in his sample.
To assess the inconsistencies among sexual identity, attraction and behavior ― the second “pillar” ― Diamond did her own sampling of 300+ Salt Lake City residents who were almost equally divided between those who self-identified as homosexual, bisexual or heterosexual. (20:48) The participants were asked questions about sexual attraction, romantic feelings (“falling in love”) and actual sexual partners. Stereotypically, one would expect to find neat divisions across the three identities. But this was not the case; for example, 42 percent of lesbian women and 40 percent of gay men reported some attraction to the opposite sex in the previous year, and 31 percent of gay men reported having had romantic feelings for women. (26:26) There was even more of what Diamond calls a “mish mash” between identity, attraction and behavior when the study participants had been 12-17 years old.
To track variability over time ― the third “pillar” ― Diamond analyzed the four stages of the New Zealand “National Attitudinal Study of Adolescent Health,” which tracked “gain” or “loss” of SSA among a group of young people at ages 16-17, 18-19, 24-27 and 29-31 years old. (29:00) During their late teens, more boys and girls were losing SSA than gaining, which was reversed by their mid-twenties with more of them gaining, and which was then reversed once more by their early thirties with more of them again losing SSA. This tendency toward fluidity was also evident in the measurements of gain or loss of opposite sex attraction (OSA), especially in their early twenties and early thirties. However, in contrast to the females, male attraction did tend to become more “fixed” over time, though not to the degree that Diamond expected. It would be interesting to see the results extended as the group continues to age.
Diamond concludes (37:27) that: 1. fluidity in identity, attraction and behavior is NOT specific to women but a general feature of human sexuality, one which is also confirmed by historical and cross-cultural literature; 2. the various sexual categories currently in use (LGBTQI, etc.) are usefulheuristics (mental shortcuts, rules of thumb, educated guesses or stereotypes), but though “they have meaning in our culture, … we have to be careful in presuming that they represent natural phenomena” (38:55); and 3. it is “tricky” to use these categories for advocating rights based on the concept of immutability “now that we know it is not true … As a community, the queers have to stop saying: ‘Please help us, we were born this way and we can’t change’ as an argument for legal standing.” (43:15)
My own major takeaways:
the majority of men and women who have experienced same-sex attraction to some degree either prefer opposite-sex attraction or have the potential to move in that direction; it’s unknown whether or not the small minority with a more fixed preference for SSA could also move in that direction under differing circumstances;
the majority of these men and women DO NOT follow the stereotypical “coming out” models of the “gay script;” and
patterns of sexual attraction, identity and behavior change profoundly over a young person’s lifetime, with most of the openness to “movement” toward heterosexuality occurring in the late teens and again in the late twenties.
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If you’ve followed my post this far, you may be wondering what all this fascinating (or not) information has to do with Christian faith or The United Methodist Church. John Wesley, the founder of Methodism, utilized the concept of “plundering the Egyptians” to express the idea that Christians should borrow from all the best that culture has to offer in order to grow in knowledge and faith and to effectively share the gospel. I think that some of Diamond’s work falls into that category. Her political commitments make her no particular friend to moral traditionalists. But nonetheless, her research is an example of honest and relatively impartial scientific inquiry that refutes several of the false notions about homosexuality that pervade our culture and Church ― including the belief that the inclination is immutable and cannot be changed.
And even more to the point, Diamond’s research unwittingly confirms the potential for sexual transformation that is alluded to in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. If the verse “such were some of you” accurately describes the men and women whose sexuality changes naturally through the course of their lives, doesn’t it apply even more ― and bring additional hope ― to those who submit their fallen and sinful sexuality to the redeeming, sanctifying supernatural grace of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit?
We’re living in a time when more and more people, especially youngsters, are buying into the “gay script.” And we’re also living in a time when LGBT political activists are doing everything in their power tolegally prohibit and criminalize Sexual Orientation Change Efforts or SOCE. A solid understanding and clear communication of the “good news” of Dr. Diamond’s work gives believers one more tool for countering these ungodly trends.
And maybe someday, with God’s help, the rest of the secular therapeutic community ― along with politicians, academics, media elites and the culturally conditioned folk in our pulpits and pews ― will catch up to her.
There are very few men who are as thorough and scholarly on the subject of the Bible and homosexuality. Dr. Robert Gagnon, Associate Professor of the New Testament at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary is one such scholar. Based upon Dr. Gagnon’s fantastic work, The Bible and Homosexual Practice: Texts and Hermeneutics, an excellent video presentation is presented here to give clear answers from the Bible texts and Bible hermeneutics. This presentation also gives a clear historical background in context that is very helpful. This video series is very clear that the Bible teaches a prohibition against homosexual behavior, to argue otherwise is disingenuous. There is also a clear warning that should be listened to from the Bible for those who embrace homosexual behavior and those who teach an acceptance of homosexuality. Do you really want a thorough understanding? Do you really want to know the truth? Please review the following videos for a scholarly and thorough teaching on the subject of homosexuality and the Bible. This video series is an excellent resource for the student of God’s word, the theologian or for anyone desiring to gain understanding in this day when many are embracing homosexuality. Please watch this entire +3 1/2 hours of video with your Bible in hand and ready to take notes!
This is very good advice given to me from a friend who has an avid use of the Internet in blogging and dealing with trolls. Don’t give a morsel or a bone! “Don’t feed the trolls!” Feeding is responding back to their craziness! DNFTT! They will only harass you more and use what ever you say against you, as they have no interest for mature or professional dialog, they’re bullies.
What is a troll? A troll is an internet bully(s) who insists on being a nuisance by attacking and writing distorted, untrue and hateful things about you in a newsgroup or on a blog – or somewhere on the Internet. They will usually contact you through emails, comments on a blog and will try to stir up controversy through blog postings. When individuals or groups continuing in this behavior it is called trolling. Unfortunately it can also develop into what is stalking.
There are groups of people who are watching ministers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ who are watching ex-gay leaders with stalker mentalities and even incitements to assassinate a person’s character. It can become difficult when a troll becomes a stalker, and legal action must be taken. I really appreciate godly lawyers who desire help people in ministry. There are good lawyers with the Alliance Defense Fund, Thomas More Law Center, and then there are local lawyers who have been very helpful to me and to First Stone Ministries. There are groups of liberal blog bullies and trolls who actually advocate for stalking or suggest ways to actually trouble Christian conservatives, ex-gay ministry leaders and their staffs.
Bottom line, if you share something contrary or in opposition to the politically correct liberal leftist position about homosexuality, there is NO tolerance of your views. Freedom of speech for the Christian is coming to an end IF the liberal left have their way. It has become clear that tolerance is only for those who have the gay political point of view. Accept homosexuality as normal, or you are a bigot, and a hate monger. So ironically intolerance is coming from the groups of people who demanded tolerance. There is no room for tolerance for conservative Bible believing ministries like First Stone, Focus on the Family, Exodus International, and scores of many other Christian organizations with who are in opposition to politically gay-agenda-minded motivated groups. The Internet is full of personal blogs of gay men/woman and gay organizations who wish the demise of Christian organizations.
DFTT! – Don’t feed the trolls, and sound advice from my lawyers: document everything, keep everything, start filing police reports and get a team of lawyers.
Perspective helps in understanding the root causes behind those who are so hypocritical. As one newscaster so eloquently said, “it is the outpouring of adolescent behavior of those who demand tolerance, yet who will not give tolerance.” Homosexuals are some of the most wounded people I have ever known; I should know, I was one. When you see the angry mob, we must as Christians remember the hypocrisy comes from deep rooted rejection, insecurity, abuse, abandonment and bitterness. When the human heart becomes so polluted and broken we should expect violent tempers. We should understand the adolescent entitlement mentality comes from pain, however we need to stand firm against it, and continue to offer compassion and help. God help us all!
Angry Mob of Gays Beat Girl with her own Bible in the Castro District, San Francisco, CA
It seems that this election has hit an all time high of hypocrisy and lies for the Democrats. The Dems are out of control when it comes to social issues, e.g. homosexuality, sexuality, redefinition of the family which involves the normalization of homosexuality as equal to heterosexuality in unions and marriage in all 50 states, additionally there is now the advancement of mandatory sex education K-12 to teach our children this new redefinition of family, Obama’s pro-death radical extreme positions on abortion are almost unbelievable, and then there are the hate crimes legislation and ordinances to promote the silencing of Christian or conservative speech on the issues of homosexuality and morality. (Please read my previous post with hyper link confirmations).
However, having said all that, it is so sad that reporters seeking to know just a little of the truth are not allowed to ask tough questions of the Obama / Biden camp; watch the following YouTube video.
Gay affirming policies and politics are leading to the ruin of marriage as once known between one man and one woman. Marriage is on the fast-track of no longer being sacred. According to a recent Gallup poll, 78% to 88% of American youth ages 16 to 25 embrace the idea of homosexuality as a valid, acceptable alternative lifestyle and that gays should be allowed to marry.
According to this polling data, I would say that the USA is only 10 – 15 years away from a sweeping gay marriage revolution across this country. This is already occurring in Europe. If there is not a spiritual and moral awakening, marriage will become a bothersome formality for a liberal immoral society. Once marriage is defined to mean anything you desire, it becomes warped and goes to several other bizarre forms.
So, why not have marriages to include polygamy, marrying children, or even your favorite pet? “Ridiculous!” You might say, well time will tell. It would have been ridiculous 50 years ago to propose a future of what actually happened this past week in California. Is it ridiculous that the San Francisco Valued Pious Black Robes trashed traditional marriage? Gays are lining up to marry in California! Oh the time consuming quagmire this will put other states into dealing with gay marriages and divorces. There will certainly be plenty of extra courtroom time and dollars spent until the newness wears off and gay affirmation has completely destroyed marriage altogether.
I feel the Church at large has lost its saltiness and influence in this “post-modern any thing that feels good goes” narcissistic generation. Even among heterosexual marriages of evangelicals there is more than a 50% divorce rate. Where is commitment? Where is loyalty and godly character in our society? Haven’t we started the imploding process by embracing all forms of immorality? Where is the Holy Church? Most church-going people laugh and embrace gay characters during their weekly dosage of television entertainment. Acclimation – it really has become “acceptable.” The Church is not allowed to even use a Biblical word to describe homosexuality as detestable without gasps and shrills from other acclimated politically and culturally relevant Christians. Yes, we have become acclimated to accept it as a normal part.
When marriage is made into a mockery, then the question becomes, “why bother?” The overwhelmingly majority of the same noted peer group in the Gallup poll also believes it is perfectly acceptable to have free sex with anyone at anytime, just as long as it is consenting. Will this be the last generation to up hold any form of Judeo-Christian morality? Will there be even more terrorism from radical Islamic Fascists because the USA is indeed become the great Satan of immorality in their minds? The leading country producing the largest amount decadent pornographic material to the rest of the entire earth! The Islamic extremists actually believe their holy book and are out to destroy such infidels. The next 10 to 20 years are going to be very gripping. We owe much of this to well organized political savvy gay activists, the California black robes and to a sleepy Church.
“This is all the more urgent, for you know how late it is; time is running out. Wake up, for our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. The night is almost gone; the day of salvation will soon be here. So remove your dark deeds like dirty clothes, and put on the shining armor of right living. Because we belong to the day, we must live decent lives for all to see. Don’t participate in the darkness of wild parties and drunkenness, or in sexual promiscuity and immoral living, or in quarreling and jealousy. Instead, clothe yourself with the presence of the Lord Jesus Christ. And don’t let yourself think about ways to indulge your evil desires. (Romans 13:11-14 NLT)
One bright day, in the state of Confusion, a scruffy-faced man in Divers City felt a little flutter in his belly. As the days went by, the flutters grew stronger until they felt like little kicks.
“I’m pregnant!” the man gushed as he hugged his girlfriend.
“It’s a miracle!” the media proclaimed, as they paraded him around the talk show circuit. Some people said it wasn’t possible, but the media ignored them.
Suddenly one night, the man sat bolt upright in bed. Shaking his girlfriend awake, he said, “My water broke!” This produced a frenzied search for the suitcases and car keys, and a mad dash to the hospital.
Pregnant man in tow, the girlfriend picked up her cell phone and dialed ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and Oprah. By the time they got to the hospital, it was a media circus. Cameras rolling, the flashbulbs flashing, the pregnant man was wheeled into the hospital to deliver his baby.
Several hours later, the weary girlfriend stepped out of the hospital room and announced to the camped-out media, “It’s a girl!” Demanding video footage and pictures, the media crowded into the room.
As cameras clicked and videotape rolled, one reporter noticed that the baby was moving its mouth. “Quiet!” he yelled. “The baby’s trying to speak!”
The crowd hushed as the precious newborn looked up into the face of her father and said, “Mama!” A horrified silence fell on the room.
Nervously, the man looked down at his daughter and said, “No, child. I’m Dada.”
The baby smiled and reached her little hand up to caress the man’s scruffy face. Again she said, “Mama!”
A single tear streaked down the man’s cheek as, for the first time, a feminine softness crept into his face.
“It’s true,” said the man, as gasps trickled throughout the room. “I am your Mama. How did you know?”
With a twinkle in her eye, the baby said, “Silly Mama. Only girls can have babies!”