Ex-gay Leaders Speak Out about FREEDOM from Homosexuality! There is help! There is freedom!
The Coming Out 4 Good YouTube Ex-gay videos have launched, with many more to come! I am very excited for the truth to be told. There is freedom in dying to this self-centered world we live. Jesus has called us to deny ourselves. There are many who are walking in denial of what Christ says, and are embracing deception in a “gay gospel.” They teach God loves you as an indication of approval for their sinful lifestyles. This was prophesied to happen in the last days, people running after teachers to tickle their ears and give them “another gospel” which is one of selfish indulgence. There is no gay gene that we are aware of to date with millions of days spent to prove it! All of this deception of denial about sexual sins only leads to destruction as is written in the Scriptures.
“You can be certain of this, you should be sure of this: that no person practicing sexual vices or impurity in thought or in life, or one who is covetous [who has lustful desire for the property of others and is greedy for gain]–for he [in effect] is an idolater–has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. You can be sure of this that no one who practices adultery, fornication, homosexuality, prostitution, lying, stealing, reviling, idolatry, covetousness or things like this will have any inheritance in God’s Heaven.” Eph 5:5 (Amp, and modern versions). (click to see 1 Cor. 6:9-11)
I really like what the late Keith Green used to say, praying prayers isn’t what saves you! Everyone prays prayers in every religion, it is loving and adoring Jesus Christ as God and King; surrendering to HIS LORDSHIP, believing in HIS sacrifice that saves us. Truly believing in HIS sacrifice alone and not in ourselves. We surrender ourselves to HIM! This is salvation to have true fellowship with God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Jesus loves us so much. He gave Himself completely to save us from the penalty of death and hell. The Scripture goes on to tell us the truth about being in denial.
Let no one delude and/or deceive you with empty excuses and groundless arguments [for all these sins], you cannot practice these sins and love God, for through these things sinful practices the wrath of God comes upon the sons of rebellion and disobedience. So do not associate or be sharers with them. For once you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord; walk as children of Light. Eph 5:6-8
It is not how you start a race but how you finish determines IF you win. Let us run the race in such a way as to win!
Left to right: Joseph Thiessen, Laura Leigh Stanlake, and Stephen Black
There is hope for those who desire freedom! Jesus Christ did not die in vain. He died so that we can live a life free now, and to have eternal life. His compassion reaches to the Heavens. God does not desire for anyone to suffer but for all to come to Him in full surrender. He loves us all. He wants us to love Him in return, with our wholeheart and with our whole-life.
Disclaimer / Warning: The content of the bottom YouTube video with Perez Hilton is offensive. The use of this video is not to be construed as an endorsement of the video producer and is used only as informational purposes only.
The level of intolerance in the USA is at an all time high, but not from the “right-wing” conservatives or from Christians. It is coming from those who scream the loudest for tolerance. Politically correct tolerance is only for those who believe that homosexual behavior must be given civil rights status equal to race and gender; and any other beliefs are met with hostility and intolerance. This intolerance not only came from the openly gay Perez Hilton as seen in the hateful video clip below, but from the betrayal of Miss California’s “friends” and colleagues. It is now obvious Carrie Prejean’s “friends” were in this only for the “win” and not for Carrie personally. Miss Prejean’s “freinds” Shanna Moakler and business partner Keith Lewis completely snubbed Carrie, only later to continue in their intolerance by communicating divisive twitter posts.
Miss California, Carrie Prejean who was winning the contest for Miss USA until she was asked the controversial question by Perez Hilton a self proclaimed gay celebrity gossip queen. Perez asked the question since four states have legalized gay marriage shouldn’t all the states now legalize marriage? Whatever happened to majority rules in a vote? There are currently 30 other states that have already said “NO” to gay marriage, apparently all of Miss Prejean’s critics have forgotten this known fact. Let’s remember, Miss California does represent California as it was the majority who voted for Prop 8. No doubt Miss California faced fierce political and spiritual opposition on the stage in giving her answer, yet Carrie stayed true to her convictions and boldly shared her belief in God and her faith in Jesus Christ as seen in this YouTube interview with Sean Hannity.
Carrie Prejean feels so blessed to be one who would rather live by her convictions than compromise to be a man pleaser! She is a much better role-model than those left behind in this story. Carrie Prejean stood strong on her faith and Biblical beliefs. I applaud Miss California! I pray she goes far, and I believe she will. We are now living in a day when there are fewer and fewer people willing to take such a bold stand. Many minister’s could learn from Carrie’s stand and bold witness. Unfortunately everyone is told by the politically correct left that it will offend someone, and masses of Christians are shut down and silenced.
Miss California has continued to handle her interviews with dignity and class. Sean Hannity asked Ms. Prejean in this interview how she felt about Peres’ verbal attacks; as his politically motivated judgment cost her the crown. Carrie answered with great class and godliness, as she communicated forgiveness to Perez. She wishes Perez and her friends the very best. It was sincere and truly beautiful. What a terrifically beautiful woman of God, inside and out.
Perez Hilton could learn a lot from this REAL queen, Miss California. Read how outrageous this leader of the gay Hollywood elite treats the classy Miss Prejean. Perez Hilton has come unhinged and sadly represents many who feel the same way. Perez Hilton, Miss USA judge, calls beauty queen, Carrie Prejean the ‘B-word’ and the ‘C-word’ with sarcasm and hatred. So where are the drive by media decries? Where is “Miss USA Pageant” quick denouncements? Sadly they are non-existent.
Today I had the pleasure to be with over 5000 Okalhomans who are tired of the “Out-of-Control Washington Government” wasteful spenders! 5000 plus Oklahomans enjoyed protesting at the Oklahoma Tax Day – Taxed Enough Already “TEA” Party! Taxes are too high and they are going to get higher. The Obama-ites are raising taxes on businesses. Businesses will continue to reduce employment rolls. Unemployment will increase under this fiscal irresponsibility! Business will close, services and goods will cost more. The Obama-ite congressional solution will be more taxes on fuel, goods and services. The cost of living will go up, and the American standard of living will continue to go down towards a depression. Our children and grandchildren will have less and many on the edge of poverty will go into poverty.
This must be the beginning of a new revolution. 2010 is when we vote a new congress into office! 2012 is when we vote in a new President! It is amazing how Americans have become so apathetic concerning this outrageous tax code we have with the IRS. The Boston Tea Party was a revolt over taxation without representation in British Parlament. The tax was actually very little, some say less than 3%. Why are Americans now willing to pay 20% to 50% in their income taxes, or even more taxes IF Obama has it his way? There needs to be a fair tax. It is time to revolt against Washington, DC and elect true representation of the people. The United States of America is the oldest Republic form of governement in the world.! A government of the people representing the people, governed by a constitution. However, the US Congress and rogue judges are governing this country as a tyranny or an oligarchy. This must be stopped before they destroy this country. We need to protect State’s Rights! Texas Governor Perry is calling for Texas Independence as the federal goverment is out of control! Let’s keep this country strong militarily and protect the USA from foriegn invasion through illegal immigration. We need to stop bowing down to the United Nations. Let’s educate and influence those around us to stop being complacent and vote out the socialists and tryannists; and let’s return to a Republic form of government rule that made this country great! Above all, as Christian ministers (as servants) of the Gospel of Jesus Christ we must humble ourselves and pray, then ask God to help give us leaders that love and desire HIS WAYS!
President Obama recently went on a world apology tour (as David Limbaugh reported) accomplishing very little in strengthening the USA or world economy as was the intended promise from his multi-million dollar trip. Yet, President Obama told the world, while in Turkey, that the “United States of America is not a Christian nation or a Jewish nation” and thank God he didn’t go on to say that the United States was a Muslim nation. However, I must admit I am more suspicious than ever as President Obama went out of his way to break protocol and bow to the King of Saudi Arabia. The Muslim world loved President Obama’s bow of submission. He told the world that he considers the United States merely “a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values.” I would like to ask President Obama where does he think the USA receives its’ bounded ideals and its’ set of values?
It doesn’t take much research into American history to understand that our ideals and values are founded in Judeo-Christian beliefs derived from the Holy Scriptures found in the Bible. One merely need read over the Bill of Rights and Amendments to understand these documents are derived from biblical principles. What about the foundations of law in the United States? One merely need to study our history to find out that our laws are taken from the Ten Commandments and from the Torah. —William Blackstone is the founder of most of our common laws and he complied most of our laws from the Scriptures of the “Christian” Holy Bible. Historically the laws and founding documents of the United States of America are founded on Biblical principles and literal quotes from the Bible. Can someone please help our President? I wished David Barton with Wall Builders could take him on a tour of our Capitol and point out these historical facts with his wonderful insights as David has with thousands of others. (There are many more documents of historical facts to prove all what I am writing to be true).
The majority of American citizens consider themselves as Christian. I completely disagree with President Obama on most of his leadership. No surprise here, as anyone who knows me, knows I don’t agree with much of this President’s direction for our country. He has made it very difficult for me to respect the office, but respect I must as I am commanded by the Scriptures. President Obama calls himself a Christian at least most of the time, and all the more reason I must pray for him. However, I find myself actually partially agree with the President, as I do not believe the USA is a Christian nation in practice, I actually see our nation in a great need of revival. I fear for our country. I would imagine that less than 25% of those polled above are actually devout. However, one merely need read this wonderful book: “America’s God and Country – Encyclopedia of Quotations by William Fedrer and read David Barton’s Wall Builder site and you will know that we are in fact a nation built upon the Christian faith. Would someone from the Obama Administration PLEASE help our President and instruct him to read this book of quotations?
IS the United States of America a Christian nation? No doubt what-so-ever that the United States of America is originally a nation designed to have Christian values, beliefs and a variety of Christian denominations for the free exercise of Christian practice — and therefore was intended to be a Christian nation. To deny this, is to deny well documented history, and ultimately make yourself out to be foolish. Unfortunately, I fear with the great Billy Graham that there are many within the Church at large that actually need to be saved. Many will come to Jesus and say that He is their Lord, but He will deny them: Matthew 7:21-29. Therefore we need to be a devoted Christian people in love with the Savior, Jesus Christ as our Lord, in the Church first, and then perhaps we can once again be a Christian nation.
I close with this final quote: “Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind (Jesus Christ). It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian.” — United States Supreme Court 1892, in the case: Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States
On the week that centers on Christ Crucified for millions around the globe, the USA has acted in a most unholy manner. Palm Sunday to Good Friday was marked by daily advances of ‘gay marriage’ forces in our land. Our Bridegroom King, whose very image is manifest in male and female, and who is returning for a Bride, spotless and true, is being crucified afresh.
Consider this: I read on Palm Sunday that Iowa’s unanimous Supreme Court decision to legalize ‘gay marriage’ deliberately excluded any ‘religious’ interference. According to the justice who wrote the Iowa decision, the Judeo-Christian structures on which our entire judicial system is built should no longer inform marriage. Left in the hands of secular servants, marriage mutates. We crucify Christ afresh.
On Monday, Rick Warren, arguably the most influential Christian leader in the USA, said on national TV that he never really supported a ban on ‘gay marriage’ in CA. (He clearly had and did.) He claims that he called all of his gay friends and apologized for any perceived support of the ban, underscoring that he has ‘never been and never will be an anti-gay marriage activist.’ Deceiving, confusing, political back-pedaling: Warren is rewriting history and has bought the lie that to support marriage is ‘ant-gay’. And he is backing off entirely from standing for marriage when it is most in peril. We crucify Christ afresh.
On Tuesday, Vermont became the first state in the union to allow same-sex marriage through legislative action instead of a court ruling. That empowers nine other legislatures that are considering marriage measures this year, including New York, New Jersey, Maine and New Hampshire. Activists in New England are unashamed to admit that they are choosing states where organized religious opposition is the weakest. We are now aware and without excuse: there is a systematic, targeted effort to establish a same-sex marriage stronghold in the Northeast. We crucify Christ afresh.
On Wednesday, I read of Obama’s appointment of a gay political activist and ‘Christian’ to his advisory board for ‘Faith-based Partnerships.’ The appointee, Harry Knox, was previously head of Religion and Faith for the biggest gay advocacy group in the nation (the Human Rights Campaign), and has been instrumental in reinterpreting scripture in a gay-affirming manner for churches throughout the USA. We crucify Christ afresh.
By Maundy Thursday, I was beat up. I needed my feet washed from the idolatrous ground of my nation; I was hungry for Jesus and I partook of Him heartily at the communion table that night.
As we gathered for Good Friday as a church, I looked around the body and saw Gideon’s army, a humble band of men and women whom the Crucified has rescued from the idolatry of this world: husbands and wives, singles, old and young, heterosexually and homosexually broken and yet being made new, ‘an army whose weaknesses are being turned to strength and who are becoming powerful in battle, able to route foreign armies.’ (Heb. 11: 34)
I felt hope. Isn’t that what Good Friday is all about? In the darkest hour, at the time when men extinguish the light, God prepares the most glorious expression of His light. N.T. Wright says: ‘The cross is not the world’s victory over Jesus, but Jesus’ victory over the world.’
Jesus death is the ground on which resurrection power is manifest. So is our surrender to His purposes. Let man’s efforts to crucify Christ afresh through ‘gay marriage’ have its perfect work. Raise from the dead a Gideon’s army, O God. Let a repentant, empowered people arise.
Let us arise out of fear or intimidation of the dark powers. Let us hold fast to Him as the One who makes a way for us to make Him known. We do so by upholding His image in humanity and by refusing all efforts, however winsome, to distort that image.
Marriage matters. It represents Christ on earth more clearly than any other relationship. While we have the light, let us live with integrity what it means to bear His image and insist on its clear representation in the land. We cannot afford to be unclear or uncommitted towards marriage in this perilous hour.
We do so in and through Him, His resurrection power rooted in our very weakness. May we emerge out of this dismal winter of ‘gay marriage’ advances and into the spring of upholding God’s design for all. Consider man for woman, woman for man-the awesome dance of masculine strength and feminine beauty. It’s worth fighting for.
Post by Andy Comiskey — Copyright © 2009 by Desert Stream Ministries
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This is very good advice given to me from a friend who has an avid use of the Internet in blogging and dealing with trolls. Don’t give a morsel or a bone! “Don’t feed the trolls!” Feeding is responding back to their craziness! DNFTT! They will only harass you more and use what ever you say against you, as they have no interest for mature or professional dialog, they’re bullies.
What is a troll? A troll is an internet bully(s) who insists on being a nuisance by attacking and writing distorted, untrue and hateful things about you in a newsgroup or on a blog – or somewhere on the Internet. They will usually contact you through emails, comments on a blog and will try to stir up controversy through blog postings. When individuals or groups continuing in this behavior it is called trolling. Unfortunately it can also develop into what is stalking.
There are groups of people who are watching ministers of the Gospel of Jesus Christ who are watching ex-gay leaders with stalker mentalities and even incitements to assassinate a person’s character. It can become difficult when a troll becomes a stalker, and legal action must be taken. I really appreciate godly lawyers who desire help people in ministry. There are good lawyers with the Alliance Defense Fund, Thomas More Law Center, and then there are local lawyers who have been very helpful to me and to First Stone Ministries. There are groups of liberal blog bullies and trolls who actually advocate for stalking or suggest ways to actually trouble Christian conservatives, ex-gay ministry leaders and their staffs.
Truly we are living in new days when those who screamed the loudest for tolerance are now become some of the most intolerant hateful people in our society. Some people are actually becoming violent in adolescent demands as has been reported in the news with the riots in California over Proposition 8 in this last election in November. Ironically these are people who actually cry out, “no to hate” and yet are very people who are demonstrated extremely hateful behavior, crying out for the burning down of churches and the killing of Christians, and then demand hate crimes legislation for preservation for themselves. This would be laughable if it were not so insanely dangerous. It seems that anarchy has begun in California with recent events in Oakland, CA, the city next door to San Francisco, and this of course where a Christian missionary was beaten with her own Bible and kicked repeatedly for merely singing worship songs on the streets with her group in the gay Montrose District of San Francisco.
I have encountered several mean-spirited gay activists and blog bullies in the past few years. However, 2008-2009 has given me some extra experience than in past years. Most of these new experience started after sharing my story in finding freedom from homosexuality and sharing my feelings about free speech at the Oklahoma State Capitol on April 2, 2008. I have also had more experiences after posting my personal beliefs here on my personal blog, and after writing articles about freedom from homosexuality. I am grieved, but not surprised at the level of hate that has been spewed out at me and First Stone Ministries, the staff, volunteers, even my wife and children from people who claim to be so tolerant. It is sad how other Christian and ex-gay leaders through the country are being treated. I could write for an hour telling the stories.
Bottom line, if you share something contrary or in opposition to the politically correct liberal leftist position about homosexuality, there is NO tolerance of your views. Freedom of speech for the Christian is coming to an end IF the liberal left have their way. It has become clear that tolerance is only for those who have the gay political point of view. Accept homosexuality as normal, or you are a bigot, and a hate monger. So ironically intolerance is coming from the groups of people who demanded tolerance. There is no room for tolerance for conservative Bible believing ministries like First Stone, Focus on the Family, Exodus International, and scores of many other Christian organizations with who are in opposition to politically gay-agenda-minded motivated groups. The Internet is full of personal blogs of gay men/woman and gay organizations who wish the demise of Christian organizations.
DFTT! – Don’t feed the trolls, and sound advice from my lawyers: document everything, keep everything, start filing police reports and get a team of lawyers.
1. I wish they would admit that many people are not happy with their homosexuality or lesbianism, and that this conflict is internal, based on legitimate, intelligent religious and moral convictions–not just the result of a so-called “homophobic” society which is forcing guilt upon people who don’t conform to a heterosexual ethic.
Stop throwing out the cheap, inaccurate labels like “internalized homophobia” to explain our motivations.
2. I wish they would acknowledge that homosexuals and lesbians can experience significant change in their sexual feelings and desires, even though they may never be totally heterosexual in their sexual thoughts and feelings.
Be honest enough to admit that such change is significant and genuine, even if it isn’t complete.
3. I wish they would acknowledge that many former homosexuals and lesbians have found a greater measure of peace and satisfaction after leaving a gay or lesbian lifestyle than they ever experienced while embracing homosexuality.
Not all “ex-gays” are miserable, plotting how to secretly fulfill their homosexual lusts without being caught.
4. I wish they would acknowledge that many former homosexuals and lesbians have genuine joy in their marriages.
Most former gays and lesbians don’t get married in a futile attempt to “escape” homosexuality; they marry as a natural consequence of resolving that issue in their lives.
5. I wish they would acknowledge that all people have as much right to pursue a heterosexual lifestyle as they do to pursue homosexuality.
Former homosexuals and lesbians should not be harassed and castigated by the gay community. But I have never heard any gay or lesbian leaders speak out against the violence (such as bomb threats and physical/verbal abuse) which some people perpetuate against Exodus ministries.
6. I wish they would stop equating our decision to leave homosexuality with “hatred” and “bigotry” against gays and lesbians.
We don’t hate gays; we simply desire to live free of homosexuality. Don’t put nasty labels upon our motives. That’s being judgmental and unfair.
7. I wish pro-gay religious leaders would admit that their endorsement and promotion of monogamous homosexual relationships is a facade.
Many–probably most–men and women involved in long-term partnerships are not sexually monogamous, but gay churches don’t discipline members for committing “adultery” outside their “gay marriage.” Neither do they discipline gays or lesbians who have sex before entering into a “holy union” with their partner.
Bob Davies is the Director Emeritus with Exodus International, as Bob was the Executive Director with Exodus International from 1985 -2001. Alan Chambers is the current Executive Director of Exodus International.
Copyright 1997 ~ Used with permission from Bob Davies